G:I now seem to have switched to an Indian building. It’s a huge building, a very square front, probably, five, six, seven stories high. Very, very long. And each square in those are very ornate Indian designs. Inside seems to be very black and dark. And there are some external windows.
So what I’m going to do, is go inside. And it’s very dark inside, but this is where they manufacture something…. I thought, first of all, it was manufacturing their Gods. It seems to be misinformation. The Indian people, right in the beginning, were very unsure of what faith to follow. In Hindi, Hindu was the main faith at the time. But it was very sort of far-fetched, it didn’t really have a solid base. So what they did, and this is going back many centuries, they allowed the people themselves, or we allowed the people if you like, to see different Gods, and we allowed them to… we sort of confirmed that they were there, if you like. What they needed was something to believe in, something very solid. And their religion was solid in a way, but they needed more to it. It was a very sort of disciplined religion. So, in the different areas of India, different parts, people would have a God, for example, for their particular area, and that sort of worked very nicely. So then they wanted a God for their particular… something that they needed. For marriage, for example, for conceiving. And so they created all these different Gods, and what they thought was, this is the right way to do it. They’ve got their main God, and then there’s all the smaller Gods. And the smaller Gods simply had to be worshipped to be created. So that’s how it all sort of started in the beginning, and then more and more of these Gods were created.
And then of course it gets handed down from one generation to the next.
Spirit: And then you get one group of people in one area meet a group of people in a different area. because, we’re talking, you know, ten, fifteen thousand years ago. So they’d meet up and they’d discuss their Gods, and they would decide that, well, your God does this, and our God does this, and maybe it’s a little bit different, maybe they both do this and they started to change things around.
And the same as you get here, where you get an offshoot to a religion, exactly the same thing happened there. And the wiser people of those particular days, and of course don’t forget there was no basic alphabet, reading, writing, etc. There were a few scrolls, but nothing significant, only the very, very wealthy, or the high up in the religion had those. So everything was basically word of mouth, and as you know, it gets so, so distorted. So they would rely on the sort of head man of the village, and they’d rely on the person in charge of the local church, you would call it. And they would give their opinion when asked a spiritual question. And they would estimate what they thought it was, and in all sincerity they used to do that, because they were taught that these Gods did actually exist. And that’s why they’ve been handed down from one generation to the next. And there’s now hundreds of Indian Gods.
Now these days with the introduction of Christianity and Islam and various other religions, they still, it’s still a very popular religion because it’s such an old religion. Most of the others are new, or all the others basically are new. And the information that they did have from centuries ago there’s been, ..were very, very old scrolls, papyrus scrolls, where scant information was put down, because even in those days it didn’t have a specific alphabet. Well they had a very rough alphabet, but it consisted of maybe 30 to 40 words, or 30 to 40 letters rather, or not even letters you’d call them a cross between hieroglyphics and letters.
Khalif: And that’s how they, all they had to capture all this information. So it was very easy to misinterpret from one generation to the next what this particular interpretation should be. Now, as the elders, or the head men in the village, saw progression and basically saw the change that happens over the years, they would adapt and change to suit themselves what these Gods were capable of doing.
And they would adopt a God for their particular temple, and hoping to sort of carry favor with that God, but it was also something they could tell the people that this particular God now belongs to our temple, and they become known for this temple and that temple, and so on in the different areas, and more and more Gods were created. And they even went as far as, almost marriages. Not so much a marriage, more a joining of forces to progress, to help the area, and after a famine and so on, they’d create new Gods. And so they just went on and on, and they did it right up until today. Most of the Gods have changed dramatically, but what there is around today are probably 10,000 years old.
Another aspect which made these changes was the value. So, supposing one of the gods was very successful in this particular village, and therefore he was seen as bringing finance or goodwill to the village, and so he would be more special,
S: He created more.
Khalif: Yeah, so he would then move to another area so more people would support him. So the Gods went through various changes. Now, as it is today, as time went on, people got more understanding of what the Gods were, how they were created and son on. But in the lower levels of the people, they still believe whole heartedly in the Gods and their particular Gods in their particular area.
Khalif: They also made a lot of characters out of the Gods and what they looked like, and these also changed over the years. The names would change a little bit and the characters would change and more affluent Gods were created with more gold, looked so much nicer, etc. Gold especially, it’s very popular. With all the stones and so on.
Now, if you can imagine worshipping a God, where you have a God in the middle of a village and you worship it, what you’re doing is sending energy to it, because you believe it to be a strong God, etc. So you worship it and you send positive energy. So positive energy surrounds that particular God. So when you get somebody in a very poor state, having a lot of bad luck, etc. goes to the temple and they can feel the energy from the God and that makes them a much bigger, much better believer, a much stronger believer in their particular God.
Khalif: And they pass a lot of information to their siblings and children and so on. So that is how that energy is created. Now, again, the more popular ones, got the stronger energy, which created more popularity. They created the God of the war, etc. So they had Gods for that as well. So where there was one tribe attacking another, they would call on the God of war to help them defend them and so on, and that created the energy of war, instilled in the local people. They would say and see that we now have our mascot, our true God, our warrior, who’s going to help us, and they would then generate this testosterone and this anger and this thought that they would dominate at war, they would win, be successful at the war.
S: Yeah, phew.
Khalif: And that’s how they got far more energy, but they got that particular type of energy. So when you went to a temple, when you had a big controversy coming up with a nearby tribe, and you went to the temple and you prayed to that particular God, you would feel that God’s energy, and what was left there, of anger, domination, success, victory and so on. And that would build up.
Khalif: So, many were created over the last 10-15,000 years. Today, it’s very modern, of course. People have had a lot more information, they’ve had a lot more background, they can understand how a lot of these Gods were created, and a lot have changed, a lot have changed over to Christianity or several various other religions, but there is still this popularity of ongoing belief in Hinduism and into all the Gods.
S: Yeah, and they’ve been influenced by a lot of Westernization, etc. Etc.
Khalif: Yes, very much so.
S: But some of them are still very, very much.
Khalif: Yes, it’s a matter of sorting things out these days. And the same as you have been learning about, you know, when Jesus came down in his period, what went on in that period, and how it’s been so misconstrued over the last 2,000 years, how all the things written have been changed 101 times.
Khalif: And again, it’s a broken telephone, where things have been passed on from one to another and changed dramatically too. So you can understand how all of that works. So now if you look back over the overall religions, you can see now that what you’re left with is a mixture of religions, and there is not one true religion because it’s the belief of the people. And if you believe that Siva is your God of war and he’s going to look after you and so on, the belief in Siva is as strong as your belief in Jesus, or in the one God, or whatever you believe in.
Kalif: So everybody’s belief is what counts. So again, getting back to teaching, what you have to teach is not a matter of specific religions and specialty your way. What you have to teach is the understanding of life and how it’s developed, and how it turned into religions. And understand the whole picture to create success in the evolvement of the species of this particular planet.
S: Yeah. And how we are all one.
Khalif: Yes, we are all one. We are all one. Very well put. Now I think we will have a look at the Buddhists.
The hesitation is not that I can’t just tell you what it’s all about. I need to tell you how, first of all, how this person has seen it, how he understands it, using his language, knowledge, etc. And then to explain how it’s all started in a very basic way. I need to understand the right picture to put across to the both of you, so that you learn the correct way, without going overboard and so on.