G: Okay. Now, I’ve got somebody here. They seem to be, I’m not sure if he’s a priest. Let me just get a bit closer. It’s something to do with, I haven’t got it clearly yet, but it’s something to do with either spirit in the greylands, or spirits coming back to watch, who are, they seem to be on the negative side, a lower energy, not a happy energy.
S: So they’re obviously, yeah, they’re on a lower vibration, so they just need to see more.
Spirit: Yeah, these are like disturbed. Okay, now anybody who doesn’t cross over, goes to the greylands, and there’s a lot of weird characters up there and so on. A lot of people sort of go there to do penance before they think they’re good enough to cross over. So they’ve got all these people, and they’re all in the greylands, so they’re safely out of the way of everybody, but with this change that’s happening, of course, we’re going to tidy up, clean up that area. So new people who go through the grey lands, when they astral travel, and do what they have to do, don’t come across so much negative energy.
S: Yeah.
Spirit: And it’s simply a very straightforward process, from our point of view. We just sort of move everybody up to the next grade. And, you see, you’ve got total free will on earth, and when you get over to our side, you still have free will, but it’s more controllable. What you’ve got in the greylands are people that we can see that need help, and we’ve got a lot of positive people over here, that can go and help them, persuade them, change their minds, etc, and guide them, if you like, back over to this side.
S: Yeah.
Spirit: And when we go down, and we say, look, this is a huge change that’s coming up, and it’s right across the earth, and, you know, you could affect it a little bit by staying here, please come back, come all the way back over, and we’ll help you, and so on.
S: Yeah.
Spirit: And then they understand that, that makes sense to them.
S: Oh my word.
Spirit: And they will all move over.
S: I love that.
Spirit: So, they understand it, so they allow it to happen.
S: Yeah, I love that.
Spirit: Yeah, so it’s all good. See, a lot of people in the greylands are not bad people, it’s just that they think they were….
S: confused. Yeah.
Spirit: Well, not so much confused, there’s a few confused people, but most of the people in the greylands… Well, let’s just try and go through them. You get the confused people who simply don’t want to cross over, and they want to know, until they have a very clear picture, these are like the stubborn ones, and they want to stay there.
Then you’ve got the people who think that, you know, there isn’t life after death, and therefore it could be the devil, it could be hell, and they hold back as well.
S: So, 90% of the Christians, lol.
Spirit: Lol. Right.
S: Sorry. Lol.
Spirit: Then you’ve got the people who know they’ve been bad, so they don’t believe that they deserve to go to heaven. At the same time, they don’t want to go to hell if they don’t really understand that. So, they will wait, and what they will do is try and sort of do a little bit of penance. You know, once I… I’m not going to go in because I don’t deserve it, so I’m going to stay out here in the rain for a while, that sort of attitude.
S: Okay.
Spirit: Then you’ve got the very serious guys. Now, Hitler, who you talked to, some time ago.
S: Yes.
Spirit: He put himself down in the dark lands. Now, the greylands is between our two worlds, but the greylands, you can go way down into the dark lands, and that is just where the really, really bad people go. And the people who go, for two reasons. One is they are totally bad, and the second is they want to do serious penance, and that’s where Hitler is at the moment. And he won’t come out until he understands, until he’s convinced that he won’t be in a situation to actually do that again. So, he’s learning while he’s down there.
Now, we watch these people, and as they are ready, as they’ve learnt enough, we will go down into the dark lands, and we will surround them and we will tell them, okay, they’ve now qualified, they’ve graduated. And if they’re very bad and still are stubborn, we’ll just say right, you’ve moved up a few levels, you can come up a bit higher till you are on the outskirts to the greylands.
And eventually we get them all across. But they’re mainly the people who have the right attitude of heart, or they’ve been misguided, horribly misguided, and then they realise what they’ve done afterwards. So, it’s all of those sorts of people. So, there’s quite a selection up here.
S: Shew.
Spirit: What you also get in the greylands is all your odd bits and pieces. Now, you’ve heard of pink elephants with the drugs, and when they get the DTs and so on. So, you understand that one?
S: Yeah.
Spirit: Good. So, when the people who hallucinate and have too many drugs, etc., when they have a, you call it a bad trip, they hallucinate all these bad demons and devils and nasty things, etc., and they simply become thought forms. They move up into the greylands and they stay there, and they tend to link up with one another. And there are lots of those up here, all sorts of shapes and sizes.
S: Oh my word.
Spirit: But they’re very simple to get rid of. You just white light them and off they go. Something’s got to happen to them. They can’t just, you know, I mean, you have places in your world where they’re all grouped together, and they’ll stay in a forest, a canyon, a graveyard, or whatever, until one of us white lights them or you white light them and just get them to disappear. Like, you clean houses. Same thing.
S: Everything’s energy. So much energy.
Spirit: Yes. So we see, up here, of course you see, all these thought forms start to link together. Let’s just take pink elephants as an example.
S: Yeah.
Spirit: You end up with a huge pink elephant or herds of them or whatever. And it can be quite funny, because you get all the shapes and sizes you can imagine. But also you get a lot of things like spiders and things with big teeth and snakes and wolves and octopus and all sorts. It’s instant creations. Lol.
But what you would find enjoyable is to go in amongst them. And you could do that in meditation. And you just play with these things and you push them away, because they’re totally harmless.
S: Yes, they’re harmless. That’s beautiful. They’ll just be there.
Spirit: Absolutely harmless, yes. Yeah, so you can approach giant spiders.
S: Oh my, Grandpa would love that. Lol
Spirit: Lol. I understand. Lol. And also you can go down into the dark lands. And again, you know you’re totally safe, because you are covered in white light, basically.
S: Yeah.
Spirit: And you know you’ve got basically a pure heart, so you can go down there and be completely safe. And there are not evil spirits down there as such, they are people who have put themselves there because of the state they’re in, because they believe they should be there. So they’re not, they’re not nasty people. They may have been in this life but certainly not now.
S: Not in the spiritual world, yeah.
Spirit: Mmm. So as you go down there, what you’ll feel is a huge amount of negative energy. And then in amongst those, you see the guys that are starting to show, a positive energy, a loving energy. You see those that are changing.
S: And could we give energy?
Spirit: At the right time. You’ve got to let them sort it out for themselves.
S: Yeah.
Spirit: And once they come to the conclusion that they now understand, we can see by the energy that they gave off. And then we can go down and help them.
S: So we can’t help them?
Spirit: Not really. It’s not the sort of thing that you would do.
S: It’s an automatic thing to want to do.
Spirit: Yeah, on rare occasions we can take you down there, just so you have the experience. But, it’s something that is much easier for us to do it from up here, because we can recognize it, very simply.
S: Yeah.
Spirit: It’s a bit more difficult for you.
S: Okay.