1489 Brother Albert (Monk from 1208) chats about how the Church controlled everything in his day

Spirit: I’ve come to visit.

 

S: Welcome

 

Spirit: Mmm, thank you. Ah, it’s been many, many, centuries since I have spoken on this level and taken control of a physical body, which is a very, is a very novel experience for me. Lol. It’s been so long. So, I’m just enjoying the moment, so forgive me. Lol.

 

S: Lol. Not a problem. I’m still trying to do the opposite and connect with mine so I can do that. Lol. It’s taking time.

 

Spirit: Yes. Right, now I’m comfortable.

 

S: And a proper welcome.

 

Spirit: Thank you. My last name here was Brother Albert. And in your time, it would have been around 1208.

 

S: Shew.

 

Spirit: Mmm. It is possible to go back into memories. But when we leave here to go to the other side, what we do is we leave our main memories here, because we pick up the memories from the other side. So when we come back, the first thing we do is we come back into the last memories that we left. But they are just basically the physical memories. So for example, if I had a stutter, I would come back and I would start a stutter and so on. But then you soon get over that, you understand and so on. So it’s getting back to, what is comfortable is because I’ve been used to, or I used to live in a body like this. It’s hard to sort of understand how it all works, but it’s been a long, long, long time.

 

Now, time wise, giving an exact date is very difficult because we have to go back through my memories when I was last here. And mainly those are discarded because it is not important for us to take those memories and dates with us. It’s a thing that you created on earth to keep track of your time.

 

S: Time and space. Yeah.

 

Spirit: Yeah. Every planet has different times, and of course we have totally different times.

 

S: Yes. Lol.

 

Spirit: Now, when I was here, the understanding was much more of the church. The church was the main power, the government if you like, everything was all about the church.

 

S: Yes.

 

Spirit: And you had kings and castles and so on, and they ruled, but they always ruled under the guidance of the church. Kings could change their religions and depending on what side they wanted to be on. And the religions came up with a whole variety of different enticements to join their religion. Or in other words, threatened or join.

 

S: So religion was kind of like the politics.

 

Spirit: It was, yes. Yes, it was. You can go right back to the Roman days. Rome was the biggest religion, and of course you know that later on that’s where Roman Catholics started and came from.

 

The Sumerians had their religion and going back, that was a Jewish religion. But they weren’t developed religions, let’s put it that way, because everything was passed down. Nothing was written. There was very little written down. Because for the first thousand-odd years, even after Abraham, there was virtually nothing in writing. Only a small percentage, probably about less than one percent, could actually write. In that case, it was mainly, not so much an alphabet, but it was drawings, hieroglyphics, very close hieroglyphics, cartoons, etc. Just depicting what went on in that particular era, so it’s only a bit of history.

 

The main thing was stories were passed down from one generation to the other. The church was the main ones that passed down all this information, and it went on from one to the next. And you can understand when there was something which needed to be changed slightly to control the people, or to spell a myth, or give them hope, enthusiasm or whatever, you could change it a little bit, because the church had control.

 

S: Yeah

 

Spirit: So they would interpret it as being this this year, and that in another year and so on. And that’s how it developed. They just kept on progressing like that, and that just became the way. And then the church became so strong that it would offer guidance to the politicians. Not so much the politicians, the kings and the councils and so on, because they had no real understanding of the churches, or of religion, or of life itself, for that matter.

 

So they’d look for guidance, and originally they would look for seers, and they would ask seers, questions, and they would have sacrifices and all sorts of other things. But the religion was serious. They took advantage of it as well. They were very well looked up to, and very well looked after, and they had to produce. And there were, of course, the genuine ones and then the not so genuine ones.

 

What did happen a lot, right back in the early days, was some of the great philosophers and mathematicians and astrologers, they could see the stars moving, and they assumed, because they couldn’t reach them, they couldn’t touch them, they couldn’t measure them, they could do it to a degree. So, they assumed that the stars were, for want of a better word, where all the Gods were, where all the Gods stayed. So when you died, you went to stay with the Gods. And if you weren’t the best person, you’d maybe go underground, and stay in one of the bad places. Lol. It ended up as hell, that sort of thing.

 

S: Yeah.

 

Spirit: So when they looked at all these stars, the great mathematicians would come up with interesting information, first of all, about the dates, the seasons changing, and why the seasons changed. They saw stars moving, and they assumed the earth was standing still, and the stars were moving around them. And they started to keep track of the stars, and that’s how initially your time was invented, by the amount that the stars travelled around the planet.

 

S: Shew.

 

Spirit: And it is still slightly, well it was up until a few years ago, slightly out. It was about a minute out in those days, every day. And they corrected it and so on. These days you have things called an atomic clock to measure exactly. But what do you measure it against? You can only measure it against the sun moving around the Earth.

 

S: Yeah.

 

Spirit: Now, what happens if that changes, does your time change?

 

S: Exactly. Interesting after all this time.

 

Spirit: Very interesting. Yeah, so they monitor that all the time. So, getting back to your religions and how they started, they used to council the kings and a lot of queens, of course, in those days. And the Egyptians, they had a seer, they were very important in their life. And they would, the seers would suggest, not so much suggest, they would say, proclaim that this event is going to happen. And then the kings or council of the day, they would tell the people that the seer had proclaimed that this is what’s going to happen. So that created an energy of expectation, which helped to make it happen.

 

S: Create it. Yeah. Exactly.

 

Spirit: So, once they became more successful, they became better at what they were doing, which made them more successful. And that’s why you’ve got the ability of the seers, quite something.

 

S: Mmm. Everything is energy.

 

Spirit: Yeah. But again, that was just another learning curve, and things change, progress, evolve, and so on. You know a lot about the religions since then, from Jesus’ days, when the Bible was written with Constantine, and then you’ve got the Catholic Church and all the different variations of churches, and so that’s expanded to where it is today.

 

S: Yeah.

 

Spirit: Now, going back to my day, we basically listened to all this information that was passed down to us. We spent most of our time just praying, in a sort of a meditation, but not meditation.

 

S: Quietness.

 

Spirit: Yes, just a quietness. And there was a lot of different types of monks, again because of the beliefs of the churches and the religions of the day. And some monks would simply write up history, others would write scrolls, and others would, even today, you have monks who brew wine.

 

So there were a lot of different values. They were, in a way, like some of them were like prisons, where people, especially children of royalty and so on, would be sent to a monastery to be looked after. Which means they couldn’t escape from the monastery and contest the royalty of the day. So, there were lots of different variations. Mine was very simplistic. It was a matter of simply understanding at that stage, all I had to do during that life was just understand how to go up to that particular level.

 

S: Shew.

 

Spirit: And it was done in two parts. First of all, I was on this Earth, and I was absorbing all this information, and then, when I crossed over, I compared it to the other side. There’s a bit more to it than that, but that’s very roughly the idea. So we could see how things were developing, or I could see how things were developing and changing. So that’s quite fascinating. From there on, I stayed on this side and progressed and helped and I’ll be one of your helpers with the work that you have to do in the future.

 

S: Yay! It must be so interesting to cross over and see the difference, see the progression.

 

Spirit: Yeah, you see a total difference. On one hand, you have some very advanced souls, like us on the other side, understanding from a viewpoint of having a lot of experience, and seeing a lot of the past. And then you have the souls in the 12th century who are evolving at a much lower level and seeing things on a totally different basis.

 

S: :Yeah.

 

Spirit: So that happens on all levels, even when you get to a level above us, it will also look different.

 

S: And when you were here, as opposed to crossing over, did you see more of a clarity in your cross over as the evolvement and the progression? Did you see more clarity in your cross over, or were you aware of it?

 

Spirit: Ah yes, very much so. Yes, you could see the evolving, you could see the huge change. The way we saw it over there and the way we saw it when we were on earth, totally different.

 

S: Yeah.

 

Spirit: But also, working in a monastery, you don’t experience the outside world, what goes on, and all the other things which you just, on a daily basis, soak into your brain. We’re in a monastery where we have the very basics to do every day, and it’s the same thing day after day after day. And so you learn that very well, but you don’t have a huge expansive experience. You just learn that particular lesson over and over again.

 

S: Wow. So, you don’t really live your life, you just learn that.

 

Spirit: Yeah. And the idea is, we were told in those days that Jesus died for our sins, and this, that and the other, and if you do good, you’re going to go over to heaven and sit on the right hand of God for the rest of your life. And that gave us peace, because we had to, we simply went through that life not having any additional stress that you have, trying to fight for survival and understanding and so on.

 

We were looked after by the monks, the food was very basic, we all had our chores to do, and we all just accepted that that was life, that was all that was for life. And for 38 years, I think it was, I just, I just existed in the monastery.

 

S: Shew. That’s amazing.

 

Spirit: Yeah. And of course we were viewed as being very spiritual, religious, so we were looked up to. And if we had to go out and go into a town to get provisions or whatever, everybody would…

 

S: Stop and look.

 

Spirit: Yes, stop and look, and they would look at us with respect.

 

S: Okay.

 

Spirit: You know, we were very special in that particular town.

 

S: That’s your energy as well, because you a higher vibration, because that’s all you know. So your vibration would have been higher than them, and they would perceive that without knowing they’re perceiving us.

 

Spirit: Yes, you’re quite right. Very good, yes, you are quite right. Yes. I’m glad you got that, that’s nice. Now, as far as nature goes, that didn’t really come into our existence. We used to grow our own food, but our thinking there was, or what we were taught to think, was, you know, God will provide, so you plant your potatoes and the potatoes will grow. And of course we did the usual watering them and so on, but we never, never really looked after them, they were just, they grew, we ate them, and then more grew and so on.

 

So there was nothing special, we didn’t have flowers. You know, the flowers are beautiful, and there is such a selection of flowers.

 

S: It’s beauty, yeah.

 

Spirit: And so we didn’t worry about that, it was, again, we weren’t taught it. We weren’t taught to respect beauty, we were taught to basically do that, and just survive on the minimum, because that’s what God wanted. And the more minimalistic you were, the more you could understand and please God, so you became purer.

 

S: Shew.

 

Spirit: It was like that. Food was very, very basic, and meals were set times, and it could be the same thing day after day after day. So there’s nothing, there was no luxuries at all.

 

S: There’s nothing to look forward to at all either, it’s like robotic.

 

Spirit: Very much so, but the smallest thing then, become, it’s something to look forward to. For instance, spring, when winter is finished and we used to freeze every day. Sleeping in bed, we had cots in those days, very thin blankets. And we’d often sleep in our habits because it was that cold, but we thought, this is what God wants. The more we can struggle, the purer we will be. We’d get up in the morning and we’d have homemade bread, but we didn’t have butter or marmalade or jam or anything, lucky like that. It was just the basics, sometimes fat to spread on the bread.

 

But, when it came to something like spring, and you see sunshine in the morning, and then you get to warm evenings. And then, those are the sort of things that made us happy, if you like.

 

S: And that’s what life’s about, just sunshine and warmth, beauty.

 

Spirit: One thing I do remember is, particularly with birds, there were a lot of birds. I think mainly because we had a vegetable garden, and they were a great source of enjoyment. We’d spend a lot of time just looking at the birds. And especially when you get a new bird with a different colour and sound.

 

S: Yes.

 

Spirit: When you think, we never had anything like the communication you have today, like the radio and TV and so on. So, it was all just to do with prayers. And most of the day was spent working and praying. And there was very, very little time for communicating with each other and sitting and talking. We’d have our evening meal, and that would be quite often in silence. And again, it was to praise God. Before supper and after supper, we’d gather and we’d pray, and we’d spend hours on our knees praying.

 

Also, it’s clothing. I think I had my first habit for maybe 10 or 12 years. And again, just so threadbare. Lol. Eventually they’d have to give me another one. And illness. Now, we weren’t sickly because we had such a fixed regiment and diet.

 

S: Yeah, you weren’t exposed.

 

Spirit: And we worked every day and we weren’t exposed to diseases. And when someone was sick, we all prayed for him. And that actually created an energy which did help with the healing. It just allowed us to heal the body quicker. Now, we didn’t understand, at that stage, what we were doing. We were assuming that we were working prayers or working through God. Which, it’s the same today, but you understand it totally differently. We were doing it with faith.

 

Of course, women did not exist, unfortunately. Lol.

 

S: Yeah, I was going to ask about that, so no luxuries there. Lol.

 

Spirit: No, definitely no luxuries there. And we would rarely see one. Rarely see one. It’s just a when we went into town. And of course, you …

 

S: Can’t relate, yeah.

 

Spirit: Yeah, you couldn’t… what’s a polite way of putting it. You couldn’t think any further of just glancing. Lol.

 

S: Yeah.

 

Spirit: So, another luxury in a way, but something we had to put on one side because we were told that that is being weak. The weakness of the flesh. Ah, boy did we learn?

 

S: What an incredible strictness and boundary and  It just shows that too much of something is just… And how people can be… What’s the word?

 

Spirit: Dogmatic?

 

S: Yeah, and brainwashed almost.

 

Spirit: Yes, very much brainwashed. Very much so. But it’s all something that we had a concrete belief in.

 

S: Yeah. And again, no wrongness in it. I’m just saying that you can see the energy that it creates. And it creates it so big and it just creates this massive energy. And that is the way and that is it.

 

Spirit: Yeah, but we’ve progressed an awful lot since then. You can obviously, we do evolve and progress and so on. But that is all we knew in that stage. And it was part of the evolvement of religion and monks and the understanding of this life.

 

S: Absolutely. Yeah. But brave you for living that.

 

Spirit: Lol. I was just trying to recall when I first went into the monastery and I… I can’t. Still, a long time. You know, memories from your early years you tend to forget and that is for a very good reason. Your early years that your child is going through at the moment, are things that you will forget because you make a lot of mistakes during that period. And you don’t want those mistakes to weigh you down in the future, realising that you were a very naughty child or whatever.

 

S: Yeah, lol.

 

Spirit: So that tends to change and when you do look back on it you can only see so much. You can only see a certain picture.

 

S: Just the important stuff, yeah.

 

Spirit: But then you do then understand that then I was just a child and that’s what children do and so on and find a way to forgive yourself.

 

S: Exactly.

 

Spirit: We had very few pranks in the monastery because these were viewed as being definitely not the thing to do. But we would do the odd pranks such as putting things in different monks’ beds and all sorts.

 

S: I was going to say, was there any laughter and fun and joy?

 

Spirit: Yes, but at a different level. We would laugh at the simplest things. The majority of time we did not laugh because it was a very serious vocation. You know, it was all walking quietly, heads bowed and prayers. You’d go out into the garden on a good day and maybe sit and contemplate and do a bit of gardening and all sorts. So there was very little time for frivolities and laughter.

 

S: Yeah.

 

Spirit: But we did, when there was communication there could be laughter at simplistic things. Breaking wind is a very good example. Lol. And with it being all men there, it’s not a problem.

 

S: You should have had my dog Bruno there. He wouldn’t beaten you all. Lol.

 

Spirit: Lol, Mmm, that was very entertaining. Baths. they used to be there once a week and that was an event to look forward to because it took a lot of effort to draw water for different baths and then huge communal baths. And that was a very special event, a very special part of the week. Occasionally with food we’d be brought food by outsiders. The people in the village surrounding us, a town or a village, they would bring things to us. So, for example, one of the farmers would have too much milk so they’d bring some milk along. Others would bring along eggs and fruit and various things. As it came to jam-making season, if there were leftovers they would bring them to us and we would make jams and we’d give some back to them and we would keep some for ourselves. And that was a luxury, very much so.

 

Meat was very rare, very rare. If you ate meat, if anything it was chickens. Eggs, of course, we ate a lot of. But mainly it was making our own bread and a few varieties of porridge, stews, that sort of thing. I was never involved in the cooking side of it. We had those that were good at it, or those that did it, put it that way. When you have, if from day one you have bread and jam every day that becomes your stable diet and you don’t understand anything better than that.

 

S: Yeah, it’s the same as the life you’re living. You know no better. So you’re just live it.

 

Spirit: Yeah. You do. And you accept it. And what you, when you go down to eat and you’re hungry, you have food. And that food is just your basic bread and whatever.

 

S: But it’s food.

 

Spirit: Bread and fat and it was fine. And that, we would view that the same way as you would view eating your evening meal here. It was comforting for us, it filled the gap, it was nice. One thing we did make as well was ale. And it was a sort of fermented ale. And this was drunk as a standard drink. Water was, water was not the best. We had a well, you could get water. But it was very limestone, acidic, that sort of flavor, taste. So we used to make an ale. And it was just a matter of getting some wheat from the farmers and a few hops, and some bits and pieces and we’d make an ale. It was a very, very weak ale. We never had way too many or anything along those lines. It was just a, maybe one of us had alcohol. It was just the beer of the day or the ale of the day.

 

S: Okay.

 

Spirit: We knew very little of children because we had no contact with children. So we couldn’t relate to children when we were either out in the village or if any were brought to see us. So it was a matter of we would relate to the children the same as you would relate to a new puppy or a new dog. Because you don’t know any better. So we hadn’t learned any of that.

 

S: Yeah. And they must have found you most interesting.

 

Spirit: Lol. Entertaining, definitely. Cows, yes we had some cows, we had some pigs. Now, the cows provided milk and at the end of their life they were not slaughtered by us. They were taken away by a farmer and traded for a new cow. And that was part of their donation to Running the Monastery. Chickens, we had quite a few of those and a few ducks. And occasionally, very occasionally, they would disappear and end up on the table. But not as a whole roast bird as you would. It would be the flavoring in the gruel. And maybe one chicken would be suitable for maybe twenty monks. So it was just that flavor, spread throughout the gruel. Vegetables, of course, a lot of. And fruit, a lot of fruit as well.

 

I was just trying to think what we did with our fingernails. We didn’t cut our nails. It was important to keep them short, for cleanliness and so on. We had, you would call it these days, a wet stone. Something you would sharpen a knife on. And we’d use those and we would use our fingers backwards and forwards, to file them down. And to get them perfect. Our toes, of course, were much more difficult. We’d have to put one foot over the other. And this was about maybe a foot long and two or three inches wide. And we’d have to try and do one toe at a time. Lol. Big toes are easy but then you’ve got them little toes.  And that’s a bit tricky. Lol.

 

S: Lol.

 

Spirit: Again, that was the way we had to live. Our ablutions were communal. A bit of a delicate subject, but we had a big room where everybody sat, facing outwards. So we had one giant well, if you like. And that was cleansed with flower water and so on. And that was just the way it always was. From when I was there, luckily nobody ever fell in. Lol.

 

S: Lol. Gosh, I didn’t think of that.

 

Spirit: That could have been very nasty. I think, unless you have any questions, that is as much as I can tell you.

 

S: That was an amazing, incredible journey. I was in it with you. And what do you think of this reality?

 

Spirit: Ah, now that’s a very good point. Okay, let me try and explain that. When I finished that time on Earth, and I crossed back over, I could then see the difference between the way things were developing on Earth and the way things were developing in general. Because you can now compare it to other experiences, not just experiences that I had, but experiences with other people who have been down and experienced different lives. So I had the choice then of either continuing to evolve and going back for more physical lives or I could stay there and help with the evolving of the whole planet, if you like. So I decided to stay and what fascinated me was how I could have gone through that life and been happy with the little that I had, with the little food, the solitude, the bare minimum, but because of the people, the common ship, the togetherness, all in one, that made the difference. That gave me satisfaction.

 

Now, I then started to look at all the other, and we could see things of course totally differently. I could see many things at once of what’s happening in different parts of the Earth. So I’ve concentrated on this planet mainly, and I’ve watched it grow and how it grows in different waves and stages and so on. And now we’re coming to a very important stage in the growth on this planet where this next major change is going to happen, it’s going to change to a much nicer planet. As I lived a life in solitude, that to me looked very, very good.

 

You’ve lived a life so far in a world which is full of upheavals and dramas and problems and so on, but you’ve seen it as being your natural world. You haven’t seen it as a very happy, joyful, fulfilling world. And you see that as your norm. And this is what I find fascinating. And once the populace sees the changes happening, and they can see the beauty of more things, and the friendship, and everybody helping each other, and they can see far more. And that is a beautiful thing to see. So it’s like creating, if you like. And my job, along with many others, is to help people like yourselves to help with this transformation of putting the Earth onto a much better plane, a much happier plane, and a well-deserved plane.

 

S: Absolutely.

 

Spirit: People here have learned so much. There are a lot of very evolved souls here, and they’re down for their last lessons. There are a lot of evolved souls like yourself at various stages who are now ready to help with the change. You’ve had many past lives which have brought you to this particular junction, and others at different levels above and below you are in the same position. So we need everybody in place to make this change happen and create for ourselves, not for ourselves, but… our garden is about to flower.

 

S: Yeah.

 

Spirit: We’ve spent generations getting to this stage. Time makes no difference, but we’ve seen the growth, the creation, and now we’re going to see the next result, the next stage. It’s not the final stage, but it’s the next stage, and that is beautiful to see. I’m happy to stay here and watch this change, watch this growth. Once that is finished, then I will decide what to do next, but over here there’s no hurry.

 

S: Yeah, that’s the beauty of it, there’s no time.

 

Spirit: Yeah. It will be lovely to work with you. Thank you, and I’m going to enjoy it. I really am. You have such a nice route mapped out for you, ahead. The work that you’ll be doing is just nice to see, nice to see. And I’m going to enjoy working with you too.

 

S: I’m excited. Thank you.

 

Spirit: I have your friend here who’s told me to say….. MWAH

 

S: lol.

 

Spirit: Lol.  It was a pleasure meeting you both. It was a pleasure talking to you, and I really enjoyed getting back into this physical body and just enjoying it and sharing with you a bit of my life.

 

S: That was very special. Thank you.

 

Spirit: Thank you. And… Good night.

 

S: Good night. Lol.

 

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G: Mmm. What a lovely character.

 

S: What a beautiful character. And he actually loved memory lane. And the detail.

 

G: He did. He had a great time.

 

S: Yeah, a good time. And I was doing it with him. And when they’re doing this, I can see the garden, and I can see the house, and I can see the chickens, and I can see everything, and I’m going through the whole world with him. I’m like, oh my word.

 

G: Did you have your eyes open at any stage?

 

S: No. Because his hands were going ten to the dozen, all over the place.

 

S: Talks with his hands, like me.

 

G: Well and truly, it was brilliant.

 

S: I love it.

 

G: Yeah, very, very expressive in everything he was doing. But he was so enjoying himself.

 

S: And that was in the 1200s. So there’s certainly…

 

G: Yeah, I think he said 1200s.

 

S: Yeah. And then no rush to come back.

 

G: No, he chose not to. He chose to develop a different way.

 

S: Yeah, to help with the evolvement.

 

G: Yeah. You don’t have to…

 

S: No, it’s a choice.

 

G: Yeah. We always thought, you know, we were told at the beginning, you have about 700 lives and then you move up to the next level. It’s not true.

 

S: You don’t. You just choose.

 

G: Yeah. We’ve learnt that just recently, and also, that you can jump from one to another and back again, and all that.

 

S: Oh, my God. I wonder if Granny will be one of Aidan’s kids. Lol. Payback. Go, girl. Go. That was amazing.

 

G: Yeah. Great time.

 

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